New Castle DIGEST - April 1, 2025
Monthly 'News, Views & Stuff to Do' for the City of New Castle, Delaware
Celebrating Five Years of covering the historic, riverfront City of New Castle, Delaware
I. March News Round-Up 📰
2025 City Election: Forum Monday 3/31, Vote Saturday 4/12
On Saturday, April 12, New Castle residents will return to the polls for this year’s municipal election, selecting a President and two at-large Members of City Council.
Two vie for the office of Council President: William Barthel and Suzanne Souder. For the two at-large seats, Cynthia Batty, Joe Day, Michael Platt, Bill Robinett and Andrew Zeltt are running.
On Monday, March 31, at 6:30pm, The Weekly and City Topics will host a Candidate Forum at New Castle Senior Center. All candidates will be in attendance except for Mr. Robinett. Due to a work shift at the fire house, he is not available; however, a statement will be read on his behalf.
The deadline for residents to submit questions for the candidates to City Topics or The Weekly by email has passed. Live attendees will be able to submit questions and topics during the first half of the event, to be used in the second half.
The Candidate Forum will be streamed live on both publications’ Facebook pages. Video will also be posted on YouTube within a few days of the event.
Direct contact info for all of the candidates has been posted on the city website.
Absentee ballots are available from the City Administration office through April 11 at Noon. Voting will also take place at the Senior Center, 400 South Street, from 8am to 6pm on Saturday, April 12. Please see the official City Elections Page for info on the timeline and procedures for registration and absentee ballots.
March City Council Updates
City Council met on Tuesday, March 11. All members were present.
Board of Health chair Tish Gallagher started off the evening by providing that body’s first Annual Report of its activities and plans to City Council.
Ms. Gallagher described the ways in which BoH members stay up-to-date on current public health concerns, and two of the articles published in The Weekly last year to share information with residents. In 2024, the Board recommended updates to the part of city code that authorizes it, leading to a relaxation of a requirement for the board to have a practicing physician, which had become both cumbersome and - given today’s understanding of what comprises a “health care professional” - unnecessary.
“Our board consists of a physician,” Gallagher noted, as well as “two nurses with public/community health background, a mental health/substance abuse professional, and a First Responder. We have no openings at this time and are pleased with the group that has been assembled.”
In 2025, she said, the BoH will focus on mental health issues in a new series of articles for the local paper, and has plans for a Community Health Fair in the Fall.
Other highlights from the March meeting included:
Treasurer Whisman reported that the city remains in “good shape financially on collections,” with expenses at approx. 61% of the budgeted amount, two thirds of the way through the FY. The city has $9.3M in unrestricted funds, and $3.3M in restricted funds (such as grants, etc.).
City Administrator Antonina Tantillo reported that…
The city hired a new Code Officer, Mr. Draper, who moved into the role from New Castle’s Public Works department. He had started the previous week and was “already addressing matters of concern,” she said.
Work on the Delaware Street railroad crossing will proceed this year in three phases, which will include adding signal poles, and relocation of the signal and gate. As the work progresses, the city will need to discuss the adjacent gateway area.
That there had been weather delays to the work at Mt. Salem Church. (Council President Souder, in her own summary of the meeting a few days later, noted that, “The collapsing addition to Mt. Salem UM Church has been removed. The Code Enforcement Officer inspected it today.”)
City administration is working with students from the University of Delaware on three projects this semester: techies helping with general website updates, HR students updating the city’s somewhat dated job descriptions, and a third project. (Which this reporter missed, sorry - Ms. Tantillo speaks in a speedy staccato!)
Installation of the floating pier was underway, she said, with the gangway attached and everything set to be done in the following days. The city was working with Good Will Fire Co. to address concerns raised by residents about its size, position and purpose.
A letter of interest have been submitted to the Army Corps of Engineers as the first step toward being considered for flood mitigation relief through its programs. Ms. Souder noted that, while funding reliability may be questionable in the near term, the length of time it takes to get into the programs means starting now, regardless of the wider economic climate.
Surveys of the land and the wetland boundaries around the proposed dog park site have been received and Ms. Tantillo is reviewing those with Councilman Andrew Zeltt, with plans to make a formal proposal at a future meeting.
Chief McCabe presented his Monthly NCPD Report. He noted that certain incidents were likely to seem more concerning than they actually had been. This included three “burglaries in progress” that were all outside the city, and domestic and other incidents listed on the report during preliminary stages of investigation but later proved unfounded or non-problematic.
Mr. Mattaway lauded the rollout of DE’s Data Privacy Act and the new Personal Data Privacy Portal established by state AG Kathy Jennings’ office. He urged residents to check it out and to be aware of how to safeguard their personal data. Mr. Zubaca echoed these comments, thanking Franklin Cooke, one of New Castle’s state representatives, for having introduced the bill.
He also shared information about the Senior School Property Tax Relief program through which Delawareans 65 and older can get $500 off their school tax bill. The deadline is April 30; once qualified, seniors never have to reapply. To qualify, a resident must have lived in DE for at least 10 years.
Councilman Mattaway also reaffirmed a commitment to diversity made by Councilman Zubaca in February, reading the well-known poem “First They Came For” by Pastor Martin Niemöller.
Andrew Zeltt lauded Planning Commission chair Margo Reign for having run an excellent meeting earlier in the month amid high passions around the issue of Short Term Rentals. Mr. Zeltt also noted that May Market is coming up, and encouraged residents to consider whether they might be able to donate a plant cutting or start, or a gently-used household or garden item for the fundraiser.
Joe Day noted he’d spotted DNREC advertising that they have submitted federal paperwork for the Dobbinsville fishing pier, so it looks like that project is moving forward.
Ms. Souder sought to reassure residents concerned about the increase in avian influenza, in light of the city’s large, itinerant goose population. She noted that only Snow Geese had thus far been found to be exposed to the current strains of concern, and that these geese are quite rare to see in Battery Park - though they do occasionally end up there. She encouraged residents and visitors to keep their distance from all of the wildlife in in city parks, especially any Snow Geese that they see, and to report any sightings of sick or dead geese to the city so that they can be handled and properly reported to the state for ongoing tracking.
Mayor Leary stated she met with Superintendent Josh Boles of the First State National Historical Park headquartered in New Castle’s Sherriff’s House to ask about potential changes coming in light of funding and staffing cuts being made in D.C. “It’s not good,” she said of his response, and could include Delaware’s only National Park having to lay off up to fifteen people.
NCCP is working with City Admin on updating the city’s aging exhibit markers and, eventually, the wayfinding signs and maps.
As reported by Ms. Souder, the mayor “thanked Mark Lorenz for his work on the City-owned property at the end of Harmony St. at the river. It was seriously overgrown and had lots of debris washed in by the river. Mr. Lorenz started working to clean it up. Ms Tantillo had Public Works help and it now looks much better. Mr. Lorenz is developing a proposal for further improvement which he will present at a future Council meeting.”
The mayor also read the city’s annual Arbor Day Proclamation.
Chief Dave Majewski of Good Will Fire Co reported that his company had responded to 181 EMS and 72 Fire calls in February, which he described as “on par for the season.” He also addressed the large white trailer out in front of the firehouse, noting that members will be going through “safety and survival” and “bailout” training using the mobile virtual facility over the coming month.
Council approved the city’s Municipal Services Commission utility to take out a loan in order to purchase two new trucks - one service pickup and one bucket truck. These are to replace a bucket truck purchased in 2005 and a pickup purchased in 2008, both of which met or exceeded their expected service lifetimes (of 15-20 and 10-15 years, respectively). This was Resolution 2025-19.
In Public Comment on this resolution specifically, Phil Gross commended MSC’s professionalism and dedication to minimizing rate increases.
Suzanne Swift announced on behalf of the ONCOR Coalition that $926,018 had been raised toward Phase II of the Battery Park playground project so far. They are planning a fundraiser at the Mercury on May 10, which may feature a casino night after party. She previewed a WPHS student-led social video project about the playground, which she hoped would go viral. Swift noted the group needed to raise approx. $150K more in order to be “shovel ready” and receive a grant pledged by the Longwood Foundation, and more by June in order to qualify for a grant from the Welfare Foundation.
Shannon Lewis previewed New Castle Little League’s upcoming season. She described how the site, with support from owner the Trustees of New Castle Common, has expanded its ability to host tournaments and other major games, and has plans for further development. She noted the league and its teams are in need of sponsors, and encouraged people to come out to Opening Day, April 5 at 11am.
Melissa Pavone was unanimously confirmed to the Flood Resiliency Committee with the passage of Resolution 2025-18. A short statement provided by Ms. Pavone about her experience is below.
Further Info: Meeting Agenda | Meeting Video | Treasurer’s Report & Budget | Council Meeting Packet (with reports from GWFC, Building Official, etc.)
Library to host ‘Garden Gala’ cocktail party fundraiser as ‘final push’ for Garden Campaign
In December, the New Castle Library Friends kicked off a “capital campaign” to raise funds to renovate the ‘Children’s Garden’ behind the library at 5th and Delaware. Earlier this month, the group announced they’d surpassed 80% of their funding goal.
The Friends have also announced a Gala fundraiser event to be held at the library on the evening of Saturday, April 26. There, they hope to raise the remaining funds needed to qualify for a $25K grant pledged to the project by the Welfare Foundation, which requires the campaign’s total financial goal to be met by June.
The Garden Gala - possibly the first annual - will feature live music and comedy; food catered by Zollie’s Jazz Cucina; a bar in the library; silent auctions for amazing items, services and experiences; special raffles; a 50/50; door prize(s); VIP attendees; and a host of literary and garden-themed diversions, including a photo booth.
Tickets to the Garden Gala are $50 each and available on the Friends’ website, or at the Reference Desk of New Castle Public Library at 424 Delaware Street.
Earlier this month, the Friends announced a large, very generous donation to the garden campaign by the Historic New Castle Hundred Lions Club, plus thousands of dollars in individual (smaller) contributions over the last month. The New Castle community certainly seems to be turning out to provide its library with an exceptional outdoor gathering space for future programs and events.
General information about the Garden Campaign is linked from FriendsGarden.org.
Editor’s Note/Disclosure: As a member of the New Castle Library Friends, I work with an amazing group of volunteers that does great things for our library. While I do believe this is a newsworthy community story, I also acknowledge that it is a shameless plug for a project that is very important to me. - Matt 😉
Planning Commission Considers Short-Term Rentals at Well-Attended March Meeting
Dozens of residents showed up for this month’s meeting of the Planning Commission, which was moved from the NCPD Community Room to the Senior Center in anticipation of the high turnout. The topic: Short Term Rentals in the City of New Castle.
Several presentations laid out the background of the discussion and the issues surrounding different types of Short-Term Rentals, as well as New Castle’s specific, existing legal and regulatory framework. The slides from all three presentations can be seen in the Full PC Meeting Packet from the meeting. The meeting (and presentations) can also be seen on video, here.
Commission members Cynthia Batty and Stephen Franklin offered comprehensive and wide-ranging presentations on the issue in general, with differing conclusions about how to regulate short term rentals in a way that responds to resident concerns about disruption without overreacting to the issue or being unfair to other property owners.
Then city solicitor Max Walton presented an overview of the code affecting this issue by himself and and City Admin Tantillo. That presentation starts on page 55 of the Meeting Packet above and has a wealth of info about current zoning and planning questions tied into the question of Short Term Rentals.
Over a dozen residents also spoke at the meeting, offering nearly forty minutes of public comments echoing many of the arguments previously heard at City Council for and against the presence of a “non-owner-occupied short term rental” on the Strand.
Above: YouTube video of the full March 10, 2025 Planning Commission meeting.
The Planning Commission will discuss and vote on its final recommendations back to City Council at a future meeting.
II. New Castle Reminiscences: People
by Beverly Flannigan, guest contributor, and neighbors
Editor’s Note: The stories and photos below come from the locals-only New Castle City Topics group on Facebook, where Ms. Flannigan originally posted them. They are shared with the author’s permission and minimal editing for the newsletter, along with a bit of additional info offered by commenters on her original posts.
Maurine Ligon, Renowned Sculptor at the Old Library


The old Library on E. 3rd Street was once the residence and studio of our nationally renowned sculptor Maurine Ligon who worked in both bronze and marble. Ms. Ligon (pictured [above]) moved into the building in 1965 and she stayed until her death in 1980. The studio itself was located on the ground floor of the old library. She had some living space behind a curtain and then more space on the second floor gallery.
Residents in our town were very excited about having Ms. Ligon open her sculpturing studio. Although she would laughingly say she was a “starving artist,” her focus was completely on her art and not business. New Castilians supported her in any way they could. Local residents including my sister Patty would serve as models for her classes. The owner of our local brickyard on Rte. 9, John Schauber, would take the sculptures made by her students in clay to his brick yard for the firing process which was no easy task.
Ms. Ligon rolled her own cigarettes to save money but I’m not sure she was actually a really heavy smoker. Her eyesight became not so great and although she would insist on driving anyway, friends would go along as passengers as long as it wasn’t a long distance.
Ms. Ligon was born in 1898 and passed away in 1980 due to a traffic accident which could have been attributed to her poor eyesight. As all knew at the time, Ms. Ligon’s two loves in her life were art and her dogs.
A bit of a dilemma occurred following her death when it was discovered that both she and her dog had been interred in the Delaware SPCA Pet Cemetery located in Stanton, a legally designated cemetery for pets only. After many denials from the cemetery that it was “absurd,” after finally clearing brush, a headstone reading “Maurine Ligon and Lucky” was discovered. To fix the dilemma, the SPCA had to register the small Ligon plot as a perpetual cemetery requiring lifelong care.
Ms. Ligon produced many historically valuable sculptures including the John F. Kennedy sculpture which was commissioned for the opening of the I-95 turnpike which was part of the Interstate Highway System developed under President Kennedy in 1963.
It is possible Ms. Ligon was originally trained as an anesthesiologist in the 1930s but she then changed her path in life to sculpture after she herself was mentored by artists she admired. Ms. Ligon would talk fondly of those sculptors when she gave lessons to her class. If anyone remembers the names, that would be wonderful.
Commenters added:
“I remember one night we were on 3rd Street corner and she invited us down to see her studio. I remember she was working on a bust of Ernest Hemingway.” - Mary Jean K.P.
“I knew she had been there but not much more than that. Thank you for bringing her time there to life!” - Frank M.
“Very interesting! My most favorite building in all of town.” - Susan G.
Johnny and Mrs. Nolan, Newspaper Distributors


Since we are on Fifth Street with our remembrances, I thought I would add the story of Johnny Nolan. Pictured is the porch of Johnny’s house on W. Fifth Street.
Johnny and his wife were two of the hardest working people you could meet. I don’t know if either had full time jobs but I do know that Johnny and Mrs. Nolan served newspapers to every house that had a paper subscription seven days a week, morning and evening. They were constantly either delivering papers or collecting door to door.
In the 60’s and 70’s, you would see newspapers piled up and organized for delivery on this porch. Johnny and Mrs. Nolan would set out in different directions to make deliveries at every door. They were very careful with making sure the paper did not land in a puddle or that any home with an elderly person was able to simply reach outside their door for the paper. Their route was huge.
One funny thing with Johnny is you knew their paper route because there was an abundance of blue rubber bands used to secure the papers dropped on the ground during their walks. Many people would just pick them up and give them back to Johnny. To this day, when I see a blue rubber band, I think of Johnny Nolan.
One sad thing happened when Mrs. Nolan who had poor eyesight was accosted in an alley and someone tried to rob her but I’m not sure it was successful. She did lose her glasses and the townspeople spent much time searching that weed filled alley trying to find them for her but we never did.
Johnny and his wife never missed a day delivering their papers and although it is a service sorely missed, they gave much to the town through their loyalty and hard work.
Commenters added:
“I remember them well. I also remember the apparently home-made cart Johnny used to carry all the papers.” - Suzanne Souder
“I work[ed] with John at Brosius Eliason. I was there 27 years and John had 44 yrs.” - Charlie B.
Town physician Dr. Robert (Bob) Beattie and Jana Beattie


This magnificent home at the corner of Delaware and The Strand, and the office behind it on Dalby Alley, belonged to Dr. Robert (Bob) Beattie. For many New Castilians, it can take a generation to catch up to the name of a new owner, particularly for someone as well-loved as Dr. Beattie, so it remains the Dr. Beattie house.
Dr. Beattie passed away a few years ago at age 87 but he had the joy of having a life well-lived with humor, compassion, devotion of family and public service. Dr. Beattie had many interests in life including rowing on the University of Pennsylvania Varsity crew, and aviation earning a single-engine pilot license. He served as a USAF 1st Lieutenant during the Korean conflict with his passion for military service being passed to his son Taylor who is now retired from the U.S. Army Special Forces.
Dr. Beattie’s wife Jana was a vital member of the New Castle City Library Board and both Beattie’s were very involved in the Episcopal Church.
Dr. Beattie achieved his dream in life to serve as a small-town doctor. Throughout his life, thousands of patients walked through the front door of his office pictured below and received expert medical care. To this day, there are individuals who remember the weeks of training they received in Dr. Beattie’s office to earn their First Aid Badge for Boy Scouts and they still remember the instructions for splinting, stopping bleeding and resuscitation.
The Beattie’s will always be remembered for their grace, compassion and service to our community.
Commenters added:
“When I was 18 and working toward my private pilot’s license, Dr. Beattie did my airworthiness physical and cleared me as being healthy enough to fly. I remember that day well.” - Gary G.
“I think this house is always going to be known as “Dr. Beattie’s house.” - Pam S.H.
[The comment below was left by Dr. and Mrs. Beattie’s son, Taylor.]
Thanks to Beverly Flannigan for sharing her great memories of New Castle, and to everyone in the Group who engages with these fun local history posts. Look out for more of Beverly’s Reminiscences in future Digests!
III. ICYMI: Local Media Highlights
Just a few highlights this month, of a couple items we’d hate for you to miss…
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Todd Viola, son of Joann and the late Carlo “Corky” Viola, recently re-shared a public post from 2022 about his memories of growing up in New Castle, to the New Castle City Topics - Group on Facebook.
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The Mercury Cafe & Teahouse has announced they have been working with the Trustees of the Common and will soon be “taking over” the upper floors of Old Town Hall at 201 Delaware Street to rent out for events.
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New Castle was the site of the latest dead whale to wash up on the Delaware shore, as reported by The Weekly. The carcass eventually came to rest at the Bull Hill boat area here in town, from where it was collected and disposed of by DNREC.
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Finally, NCPD’s recent recognition of one local girl’s bravery led to an outpouring of cheer and support from the community. Go Olivia!
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What local media caught your eye this month? Let us know in the comments or on City Topics’ socials!
IV. Event Calendar 📅
For a farther view and to catch more events as they are added, as well as the list of regular/ongoing events, check out and bookmark our website’s Community Calendar.
Remaining in MARCH
3/28 - Fourth Friday Art Loop at participating downtown establishments, 5-8pm.
More info about a host of great events for March is posted here.3/30 - Old New Castle Litter Crew Cleanup starting at Bellanca Museum, 3pm.
The group will focus on cleaning up the Rt. 273 area around New Castle Little League ahead of the league’s Opening Day on April 5. Limited pickers and High-Visibility vests are available to borrow. Gloves recommended.3/30 - Delaware Women’s Chorus Concert at New Castle Presbyterian, 3pm.
“A concert of choral music based on hope, resilience, and positivity. Music is said to "soothe the savage beast" and we are delighted to be able to lift spirits with wonderful music by gifted composers, representing a wide variety of genres.”3/31 - New Castle City Council Candidate Forum at NC Senior Center, 6:30-8pm.
The Weekly and City Topics present a discussion with the 2025 candidates for City Council. Residents may submit questions and topics ahead of the event, by email to City Topics and/or The Weekly.
Coming up in APRIL…
4/4 - Spring Bingo Night at Good Will Fire Co., 6pm.
Fundraiser by the GWFC Ladies’ Auxiliary. $30 to enter and play. Also ft. a 50/50, chance bag and food. Doors open at 6pm, games begin at 7pm. 18+ event (dry).4/5 - New Castle Little League Opening Day at the NCLL Fields, 10am.
An Opening Ceremony and games for the 2025 season.4/5 - DHS 2025 Archaeology & History Symposium at NCHS/The Arsenal.
Annual symposium on DE archaeology and history feat. presentations highlighting archaeological investigations, historical research, or related topics for the Delmarva Peninsula and surrounding areas.4/8 - Regular City Council Meeting, New Castle Senior Center, 7pm.
Agenda to be posted here.4/10 - Movie Magic: Babygirl (2024), New Castle Public Library, 6:30pm.
Screening of Babygirl, starring Nicole Kidman as a high-powered CEO who puts her career and family on the line when she begins a torrid affair with her much-younger intern. Babygirl is 114 minutes long and rated R. No registration is required.4/12 - City Election Day at New Castle Senior Center, 8am-6pm.
Cast your ballot for the 2025 City Council Election for the City of New Castle.4/12 - New Castle Sailing Club Beach Clean-Up, Battery Park, 10am-1pm.
Start from the Sail House at the end of West 3rd Street. Gloves, trash bags and volunteer certificates provided. Sponsored by NCSC and the New Castle Hundred Lions Club.4/19 - Native Bee Talk at New Castle Court House Museum, 12pm.
Local Beekeeper Thomas Lunt will talk about the importance of native bees and native plants for those bees.4/20 - Historic New Castle Easter Parade on the Green, 1pm.
The New Castle Hundred Lions Club’s annual, family-friendly Easter promenade on The Green, with music and cash prizes for those of all ages whose Sunday best is above the rest.4/24 - Shaw Alley Expo Vendor Fair at 5 Shaw Alley (behind Zollie’s), 6-9pm.
“An exclusive expo featuring local and nearby businesses as we unveil a stunning newly renovated event space!” Registration is requested (at the link).4/24-25 - New Castle Escape Room at NC Court House Museum, on the hour.
Join staff NCCHM to follow clues and track down an escaped prisoner! Time slots run in one-hour increments. Contact the New Castle Court House Museum to register.4/25 - April Fourth Friday Art Loop, generally 5-8pm, featuring:
Cindee & Jim Performance at the Opera House, 5:30-8pm,
Other events to be posted here as announced.
4/26 - New Castle Public Library Garden Gala at NC Public Library, 5:30-8:30pm.
A cocktail party fundraiser featuring live entertainment, treats from Zollie’s and a library “bar,” special silent auction items and raffle prizes, literary diversions and more. Tickets are $50 each and include one drink ticket and entry for the door prize. Funds raised are intended to complete the Library Friends’ campaign to renovate the garden. Reserve here.
Then in MAY…
5/1 - May Market Donation Drop-off Day at The Arsenal, 9am-6pm.
Community members are encouraged to donate gently-used home and garden treasures, as well as plants and starts, for Arasapha’s annual fundraiser. Further info is here.5/2-3 - Arasapha’s May Market in Historic New Castle, Market Square.
Arasapha Garden Club’s beloved annual fundraiser featuring perennial and annual plants, herbs, and donated plants, and gently-used treasures for the home and garden. On Friday from 10am to 5pm, and Saturday from 9am to 3pm. Website | Facebook Event
5/2-3 - May Market Book Sale & Raffle, across Market Street from The Arsenal.
Operating the same hours as May Market, the Book Sale features gently-used cookbooks and gardening books, plus raffles and and free books for kids. It is run by the New Castle Library Friends to benefit New Castle Public Library.5/10 - ONCOR Battery Park Playground Fundraiser at the Mercury, details TBA.
Announced by Suzanne Swift in March, with the possibility of a casino night after party.5/17 - A Day in Old New Castle - 100th Anniversary, Historic District, 10am-4pm.
The nation’s oldest private home-and-garden tour celebrates one hundred years since its founding. Organizers are planning to “recreate the first 1925 event as well as A Day in Old New Castle through the decades.” There will also be “demonstrations, activities, cars from a variety of decades, colonial artisans and crafts.” People in Colonial and Victorian dress get $1 off home tours. More information and advance tickets at the link above.5/17 - DIONC: 1920’s Swinging Soiree, Zollie’s Shaw Alley, 7-10pm.
Keep the retro vibes going with a speakeasy soiree featuring Jazz music, Zollie’s cuisine, and drinks inspired by the Roaring 20’s. Tickets at historicnewcastle.com.
End Notes
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